U of T Drupal Users Group

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Calling all drupalistas: Interested in getting together? There seems to be a growing number of drupal-based sites at U of T, so I'm curious to see if there are enough people to make critical mass on a user group. Alternately, there is a healthy Toronto DUG that meets close to the St. George Campus. We could always join up and send a U of T contingent.

If you are intersted in participating, reply to this thread.

Update: A first meetup is sheduled for February 25th at 4pm. Go sign up!

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I'd definitely be interested

I'd definitely be interested in participating - great idea!

Rup!

Definitely.

great

it would be great to learn from each other.. i am very interested

Great idea.

How about http://drupal.utoronto.ca where we could post our discussions, modules, templates etc.? That site could serve as a Drupal hub/promotional venue within UofT as well.

Since we've only had 4

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Since we've only had 4 responses to my original post to date, I'm not certain this community warrants a whole website to itself. If there's ony a handful of interested parties then we'd be better off using existing tools. We could probably get it done with a dedicated discussion forum on TKF and a monthly meetup at the pub. Perhaps the best course of action would be to attend the DUG TO meetups, since there doesn't appear to be enough interested people in the U of T community to drive a U of T specific group.

Alex did maintain a list of

Alex did maintain a list of UofT websites based on Drupal and there were quite a lot. See http://biota.utoronto.ca/open-source-content-management-systems-universi.... Maybe some haven't come upon this post yet.

Later today, I'll post something to the webmasters listserv to try and call out more people.

- Mike

We had a quasi-related

We had a quasi-related meeting the other day at the iSchool and quickly came up with at least one example of something we (UTM Library) and the iSchool had been spending money on in parallel. (It was getting the pubCookie module to talk to our authentication servers). We've both been paying separate developers to get this rocking for us, spending twice the money we need to as an institution.

I bet if we dug in a bit to this emerging UofT Drupal community, we'd find other examples of the same situation. It might be worth it, as Mike sort of suggested, to get proactive with this, mabye?

Acquia

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Maybe this will spark some interest. I spent a couple hours on the phone with Ryan Smith from Acquia. We are likely going to use the Acquia distribution of Drupal and leverage their support network. During the discussion he expressed significant interest in engaging the University about Drupal and, of course, Acquia. I would be happy to set up a TKF event and ask Acquia to fly someone in, but I need to know there's enough of an audience to warrant it or we'll just be wasting their time and money.

Hmmm... How would we gauge

Hmmm... How would we gauge that interest?

I'm trying to think of the market... if we engage divisions who already have Drupal, should it be as success stories, or would it be to turn them on to new possibilities with Acquia?

And how would we get the word out (and to whom) to those who are looking for a CMS solution?

Any thoughts? I can certainly say that the UTM library would be on side for anything you needed us for.

Leadership, Best Practices and Critical Mass

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It's been my experience that U of T, with its highly distributed nature, tends to follow a lead-by-example approach to change and innovation. There tend to be three drivers:

  • Direction from senior IT leadership (which, btw, has taken a sharp upturn in recent years with the appointment of a CIO and the establishment of ITS)
  • Someone gets it right somewhere in the university and everyone else follows that best practice, thus establishing a norm
  • Enough players pick a path and we all eventually end up walking the same direction

In this case, I see the possibility of leveraging the last two items and maybe even getting endorsement from the first. A good first step is to get all the Drupalists together so we know who we are and can start helping each other on current projects. The next would be to create a community that others can join when they have a requirement or project that could leverage Drupal. After that we engage the larger community by contributing, which in the case of Drupal is quite easy since there's already a huge groundswell of collaboration through both local and global means.

So why does an old Microsoft crone like me care? Well, I've embraced Drupal for a number of projects (including this site) and have concluded that this product and the community that embraced it works. Drupal has a future in enterprise and represents a bright alternative to expensive and convoluted commercial solutions. Having spent years in a love/hate relationship with SharePoint, I know of what I speak.

That said, Dentistry is betting on Drupal for its entire web services infrastructure and we are in the process of building it right now. Acquia is being courted as a partner because they are the frontrunner in enterprise implementation of Drupal and, hell, Dries owns the company. It works to Dentistry's selfish benefit to get others in the university on board so we can help each other. In other words, I'm happy to help drive a direction and demonstrate a working solution, which will hopefully shape a more structured future for CMS development in the university.

So what does that mean in concrete actions:

  • Build our local community using the TKF forums as a home base
  • Organize meetups, either specific to U of T or joined with DUG TO, to share case studies, discuss and solve challenges on current projects and generally help each other build better solutions
  • Leverage the university name and scope to bring in outside experts to help us learn and grow
  • Contribute to the broader Drupal community so the world is better for us having been in the game

(OK, so that last bit isn't exactly concrete, but everyone needs a dream.)

Rallying the troops

Alright, awesome, so do we start cold-calling the administrators of the sites on that list then?

webmasters listserv

I sent a callout to the webmasters listserv. So far only Mike Clark below has responded. Welcome Mike! :)

UT and NW Admins

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I just posted a similar callout to the UT and NW admins lists.

Hey all, I'm definitely

Hey all,

I'm definitely interested. Thanks for the heads up about this.

- Mike

Also interested

A Drupal get-together sounds like a great idea.

Ross

I am in!

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This is going to be awesome, i am in!

count me in

hi Greg,

This sounds like a great idea. I would like to come to a Drupal event.

How coincidental that I

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How coincidental that I stumbled across this just a couple weeks into the post. (Go Facebook stalking!)

I'm keenly interested in the use of Drupal at the university. As an avid volunteer, my attempts have been from the campus group front. As you can probably guess, turnover and retention of any sort of organizational memory are two key challenges within campus groups. Best practices one year are often forgotten within 4 years, as students graduate or just move on (if not in the subsequent year!).

Citizen Engineer launched its Drupal website (which I built) last week as a campus group connecting engineering students with public policy matters.

Web Startup Society, another newly-formed campus group, is organizing a DemoCamp at the University (focused on student-led projects) for late-Feb or early-March.

I'd definitely be keen to be at any sort of UofT-DUG.

Very interested

I've committed us to moving ahead with Drupal as our website CMS. I'm certainly in for the group meeting and any ongoing efforts.

To touch on why I'm coming to

To touch on why I'm coming to this meet-up, I'm with the I+TS Department's CMS Team (I wear a few hats there but mostly focus on front-end design/development). Currently we work with a closed source CMS (IronPoint/Active) but we're pushing to offer at least one - if not two - additional options for our clients. At this stage the front-runners are Drupal, ExpressionEngine and WordPress (including BuddyPress and WordPress MU).

I'm interested in hearing from those of you using Drupal now as to how painful or painless you've found it to work with (from the perspectives of the database specialists, the template designers, the people training clients and the end users of the sites).

I also hope to learn more from you all about how much custom development was required for your projects - or to look at that another way, what you were able to pull off through your custom development.

Have we figured out what pub we're meeting at yet? I need lager on tap to fully appreciate the nuances of a good CMS.

- Mike

Glad to have I+TS Representation

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Nice that you're coming, Mike. I was mildly aware that I+TS was looking for an IronPoint successor, but wasn't sure how far along you were in the process. I'm sure your input will be very welcome. Be sure to sign up on the the meetup event page so I have a rough idea of a head count for the reservation. Location will be announced next week.